Fly only event in our future???

[yak-aholic]

Just throwing this out there.

How many would like to see a Fly-Only event added to BCKFC's calendar of events? Not talking about the option to fish the fly category in FNT, but an event dedicated to the buggy whip. I am sure there are quite a few here who wouldn't mind that. Maybe something for the Outcast crew to consider...

[RedFinn]

sounds like fun, I bought a fly set up from bass pro 2 years ago but never have taken it out,if that was the only option I would have to give it a try

[brian22]

I like it... one of my 2011 resolutions is to learn to fly fish so I'm interested!

[yak-aholic]

I have one myself that I have only caught one red fish on. The only reason I used it that day was because I had lost 1 rod, broke another, and my last bait caster was hung up in the middle of some tailing reds. I wasn't going to try to free myself from the snag with those reds around and grabbed the long rod. There's always some reason for me to leave it at home or even when I bring it, I leave it in the truck. If it's a fly only event, I'll have to bring it.

[brian22]

I have one myself that I have only caught one red fish on. The only reason I used it that day was because I had lost 1 rod, broke another, and my last bait caster was hung up in the middle of some tailing reds. I wasn't going to try to free myself from the snag with those reds around and grabbed the long rod. There's always some reason for me to leave it at home or even when I bring it, I leave it in the truck. If it's a fly only event, I'll have to bring it.

I hear that over and over, anglers only using the fly rod if it's the only thing they have or everything else is broken/indisposed. Definitely seems like it takes dedication, patience, and skill.... Obviously much easier to catch on spinning gear.

[Musicdoc]

I'm in

[Domo]

I think that it's a great idea

[bigredbobber]

I'm in

said the man that pulled in a trout limit on the fly last year.

[marshdaddy]

Depends on when. OK Mr. Walker, set it up.

[CNSpots]

Works for me..

[snake doctor]

+1

[revredfish]

Three things would need to happen:
1) enough folks to make it happen
2) volunteers to help run it
3) if you wanted it to be formalized a designated sponsor.

We have been trying to get back with Orvis with no success. Communicate with All_in and I if you can get to them. WE would love to have the fly division at FNT again but it needs a sponsor.

[marshdaddy]

Landon, if you want to pick a date and place, toss it out there and see what sticks to the wall. If the day is good for me, I will fish. If you want to put up an entry fee, say 10 or 20 bucks, that's OK too. We can measure the fish instead of weight and longest total wins. Or something like that. Don't need club scales that way. Or, like the Rev says, if you want BCKFC to be affiliated, find a sponsor and present it to the officers. I probably need something like this to make me use the flyrod and all those flys that I've tied.

[swamppro]

I'm in. also talk to Bass Pro if Orvis is not interested

[yak-aholic]

I'll go by Orvis now and see what they say. Update in a few

[valvguy1]

Maybe it could start as an unofficial event. An Outcast of Outcasts - so to speak.

I guess as with everything........ the first questions I can see coming up are what about VOSI....... what about Spoon Flies?

Talk about a group divided within itself - Fly Fishers range from the very, very traditional to the Mother Shipping Marlin and Tuna Anglers.

Still......... would be fun I think.

[snake doctor]

Could it be the Outcast Backcast?

[Musicdoc]

Maybe it could start as an unofficial event. An Outcast of Outcasts - so to speak.

I guess as with everything........ the first questions I can see coming up are what about VOSI....... what about Spoon Flies?

Talk about a group divided within itself - Fly Fishers range from the very, very traditional to the Mother Shipping Marlin and Tuna Anglers.

Still......... would be fun I think.

+1.

I do know about the divided opinions about the VOSI and spoon flies. My take is...if you caught them with a fly rod, then it's legit. You can't cast a clouser minnow under a VOSI with a traditional spinning rod...at least I don't think you can.

[marshdaddy]

How does the weekend of May 15th or 16th sound?

[likeapickle]

im down! i dont have much luck with the flies but why not try

[marshdaddy]

Anyone have a particular area in mind? Mag, La-1, ?????

[Kurt_Loup]

Anyone have a particular area in mind? Mag, La-1, ?????

LA 1

[snake doctor]

How does the weekend of May 15th or 16th sound?

Mid/late May is graduation time for those of us with a HS or college kid making their way into the world.

[LuvDaTigers]

I'd play.
I agree with Kurt. LA-1 would get my vote. It offers more variety of fishing opportunities than Mag, IMO.
As for rules on flies vs. fly lures, I'd say keep it simple. If you're using a fly rod casting fly line spooled on a fly reel, then you're good. No plopping a spinning reel with mono/braided line on a fly rod and using it like you would conventional tackle.
I also think that we keep it more informal like the outcast events. No need to complicate it with getting a sponsor, nor would we want this event to compete with FnT for sponsorship opportunities.
Lastly, I'd say the event be kept more like the outcast events and not affiliated with BCKFC. If its part of the BCKFC events then I'd think we'd be stacking more on the plates of the tourney directors and other officers, which I don't think they really need. That is, unless the TDs want to take on another event, then they are more than welcome to plan this one. With that said, who's planning this thing and when is it?

[Musicdoc]

I'd play.
I agree with Kurt. LA-1 would get my vote. It offers more variety of fishing opportunities than Mag, IMO.
As for rules on flies vs. fly lures, I'd say keep it simple. If you're using a fly rod casting fly line spooled on a fly reel, then you're good. No plopping a spinning reel with mono/braided line on a fly rod and using it like you would conventional tackle.
I also think that we keep it more informal like the outcast events. No need to complicate it with getting a sponsor, nor would we want this event to compete with FnT for sponsorship opportunities.
Lastly, I'd say the event be kept more like the outcast events and not affiliated with BCKFC. If its part of the BCKFC events then I'd think we'd be stacking more on the plates of the tourney directors and other officers, which I don't think they really need. That is, unless the TDs want to take on another event, then they are more than welcome to plan this one. With that said, who's planning this thing and when is it?

+1

[Catch]

Of course, I'd be in... if the date was right. We have about a couple dozen members in the various fly clubs in SE LA (including me!) and so if we worked around their events (already scheduled) that would improve turnout. Just a glance at the ol' Calendar shows April 16, May 14, June 4, June 11, June 18. The last weekend of June the clubs have their annual Grand Isle weekend, and I think (rumor) that Friends of Grand Isle will have their tournament that same weekend.

I like the idea of being an "outcast" type tournament. I also like the name "Backcast" ... maybe some t-shirts like Outcast.

[marshdaddy]

March 5th, LA-1??? Total length of Reds, specs, and flounder.??? Fly Rod only.

[brian22]

I'd play.
I agree with Kurt. LA-1 would get my vote. It offers more variety of fishing opportunities than Mag, IMO.
As for rules on flies vs. fly lures, I'd say keep it simple. If you're using a fly rod casting fly line spooled on a fly reel, then you're good. No plopping a spinning reel with mono/braided line on a fly rod and using it like you would conventional tackle.
I also think that we keep it more informal like the outcast events. No need to complicate it with getting a sponsor, nor would we want this event to compete with FnT for sponsorship opportunities.
Lastly, I'd say the event be kept more like the outcast events and not affiliated with BCKFC. If its part of the BCKFC events then I'd think we'd be stacking more on the plates of the tourney directors and other officers, which I don't think they really need. That is, unless the TDs want to take on another event, then they are more than welcome to plan this one. With that said, who's planning this thing and when is it?

Agree w/ every bit. MarshDaddy, I like where you're going w/ it!

[valvguy1]

March 5th, LA-1??? Total length of Reds, specs, and flounder.??? Fly Rod only.

I like the initiative as well marshdady. March 5th would preclude all the RSFF folks. It's their biggest event of the year called Red Stick Day.

Catch's Website Laflyfish.com probably has the most exhaustive calendar for our area

http://www.laflyfish.com/calendar/calendar.php

2/12 might work

Most of April looks wide open as well

[Domo]

For what it's worth +1 for an April event

[TidewateR]

yall pick a date & I'll try to come. La 1 would be great

[yak-aholic]

Of course, I'd be in... if the date was right. We have about a couple dozen members in the various fly clubs in SE LA (including me!) and so if we worked around their events (already scheduled) that would improve turnout. Just a glance at the ol' Calendar shows April 16, May 14, June 4, June 11, June 18. The last weekend of June the clubs have their annual Grand Isle weekend, and I think (rumor) that Friends of Grand Isle will have their tournament that same weekend.

I like the idea of being an "outcast" type tournament. I also like the name "Backcast" ... maybe some t-shirts like Outcast.

Are these dates that already have something scheduled or free dates? If they're free, I say we shoot for April 16 on LA 1. Looks like the BCKFC calendar is free after PP8 (March 26) all the way until Red fish Rumble (June 4).

Now, where do we want to meet up on LA1? Bobby Lynn's has been really good to the club. We could give him a bit more business. Also, there is the Fourchon area. I'm not familiar with much down that way so someone else who is should give their input.

[ijuswannafish]

I know these events do not apply to everyone but some might. All of these things are on our calendar.

April 16 is the Forgotten Coast Kayak Fishing Classic.
May 14 is the Jacksonville Kayak Fishing Classic.
June 4 is Redfish Rumble.
June 11 is the day before the Panama City Beach IFA tournament.
June 18 Looks like it is wide open.

[pedalmedic]

Date: I'll go if I can
Tournament: like the idea of outcast format.
I am by no means a good fly fisherman and if it's to get people to fish, keeping the cost down seems like a good idea.

[marshdaddy]

Here we go. April 30th. La-1. Rules and weigh in site TBA. Will be a total length. Mark your calender. Fly rods only. $10 entry fee.
OK Catch. I'm with you on the name. Backcast I. Not associated with any club. Will try to make it a once a year event if I can remember. Maybe we can pick up a sponsor or 2 and BCKFC will eventually pick it up as a yearly event for fly fishermen in a kayak. Let's see what happens.

[scuttle]

I am very interested as well. This is what I need, a reason to leave the spinning tackle at home as well as a reason to fish more.

[TidewateR]

my sister is getting married on the 30th! We should do at least two of these fly only events this year. As far as sponsors, contact Jimmy Smith @ Uptown Angler.

either way I have to make a tourney this year, if only to see Taco flex his organizational skills :smilegrin:

[Catch]

The dates I gave were the open dates for the fly clubs activities / events. I missed Redfish Rumble tho. Sorry bout that.

Marshdaddy, April 30 is North LA Fly Fishers event, so very little or no conflict for a coastal tourney. Like your format. Would this be open, or just our members? Since it's not really a BCKFC event (like Outcast). If open, I could drum up some non-member participation from the fly clubs, even also from LKFC.

[CNSpots]

I'm in for April 30th.. I love to fish down LA 1 in April and May..

[brian22]

Fly fishing 101 by Keith Richard is on April 16, 2 Saturdays earlier; Keith is a Master Casting Instructor w/ the Federation of Fly Fishers, there are only 150 or so of them in the USA. 6 slots left, I was the first to sign up.

http://www.packpaddle.com/serverside/tripdetail.asp?id=290

[marshdaddy]

The dates I gave were the open dates for the fly clubs activities / events. I missed Redfish Rumble tho. Sorry bout that.

Marshdaddy, April 30 is North LA Fly Fishers event, so very little or no conflict for a coastal tourney. Like your format. Would this be open, or just our members? Since it's not really a BCKFC event (like Outcast). If open, I could drum up some non-member participation from the fly clubs, even also from LKFC.

Open to whoever wants to fish out of a peddle or paddle kayak with flyrod tackle and put up $10 to do it. I'm thinking along the lines of being able to enter your 3 longest redfish, 5 longest trout, 2 longest flounder and 1 other species fish not to exceed 26". Will be rounded down to nearest inch. If the pinched tail crosses a line, that is the line you use to measure. Example, a 26 &15/16 inch redfish will be 26 inchs. If it crosses the 27inch mark, it is not eligible to be entered. Add the toltal inches of your entries. Mostly to get some of us that don't fish with the flyrod a reason to use the flyrod. I will try to line up a sponsor or 2 to make it more interesting. Without PayPal, we will probably have to meet before fishing to collect the entry fee. That location will be announced later. I was waiting for PP8 and the next Outcast to wind down before pushing this one.

[Shankapotomus]

I'm in if the date works. Just got a fly rod a few weeks ago so i have been wanting to get some practice in. This will give me an excuse.

[marshdaddy]

Looks like there might be a good turnout.

[TidewateR]

but seriously if there's anyway that a date other than April 30th could work, I would appreciate it. With it being a busy spring, I realize you guys have to take days that are available.

[marshdaddy]

How is May 1st, the next day? Sunday.

[brian22]

I'm ok w/ a move as long as the tourney's after April 16! Have to be careful w/ moving dates as it can turn into a "please no one" affair quick... Of course we should agree on a date that works for as many people as possible, just sayin that it COULD be tough to find a date that suits everyone.

[brian22]

Haha, case in point, we were typing at the same time. HWY1 is pretty far for me, it's best if I do tourney trips on Saturdays.

[yak-aholic]

I can't do Sundays at all. Typically work 3:30-midnight on Sunday nights.

[marshdaddy]

I can't do Sundays at all. Typically work 3:30-midnight on Sunday nights.
Then April 30 it is Landon, you started this anyway.

[TidewateR]

well thanks for trying marshdaddy :)

[downoffthemountain]

I got my first fly rod & reel for christmas and have yet to even try snagging myself in the yard with it but I'm in. I figure this is good motivation to start practicing, it ought to be a good place to learn from everyone else there and I've never fished down LA 1 before.

[marshdaddy]

I got my first fly rod & reel for christmas and have yet to even try snagging myself in the yard with it but I'm in. I figure this is good motivation to start practicing, it ought to be a good place to learn from everyone else there and I've never fished down LA 1 before.
Glad to hear you'll be there. HWY-1 has plenty of areas to launch from and fish. I got my fly rod about 3 years ago and have not fished with it yet. I've also accumulated a large assortment of flies in preparation for when I might use it to fish with. This will get me to at least start.

[LuvDaTigers]

Glad to hear you'll be there. HWY-1 has plenty of areas to launch from and fish. I got my fly rod about 3 years ago and have not fished with it yet. I've also accumulated a large assortment of flies in preparation for when I might use it to fish with. This will get me to at least start.

Following this thread I've noticed that there are quite a few folks that have purchased a fly fishing outfit and rarely use it. Reminds me of how I got started fly fishing a few years ago. I was the same way. Picked up a decent used 8 wt and brought it with me fishing for practically a year. Every time I swore that after I'd catch a few fish then I would take the fly rod out to finally catch a red on it. Never happened. So at the urging of a fellow BCKFC member, he talked me into going out with only the fly rod. Said it was common for folks to do what I was doing. Well I did, halfway through the drive I convinced myself that I was making a mistake; that I should have brought a conventional rod "just in case". I was wrong, I somehow managed to catch 3 reds on the fly that day. I was HOOKED at that point. the rest of the summer I'd alternate between taking conventional tackle or fly only tackle. The more I went fly only, the more I realized that I enjoyed catching reds on fly equipment more than on conventional tackle. The past 3 years I think I've fished with conventional tackle from the yak maybe 4 times. The rest has been fly only.
I hope that this events gets some of you guys that have that fly rod sitting in the back of the closet to come on down and chase some fish on fly only tackle. As I can attest, fly fishing can be very addicting.

[yak-aholic]

Sounds like most of us have been waiting for an excuse to break out the buggy whips. I've got one up on y'all in the fact that I have caught one 18" red on the fly.

Looks like it's going to be a good time. I'll try later today to set up a sign-up thread so we can get a good idea of how many are going to show up. I also like the idea of having something like this twice a year.

[Domo]

+1 on the idea of having a fly event twice a year, maybe we could do it once in spring (April) down LA1 and once in fall (November) down Hwy 23

[Musicdoc]

Following this thread I've noticed that there are quite a few folks that have purchased a fly fishing outfit and rarely use it. Reminds me of how I got started fly fishing a few years ago. I was the same way. Picked up a decent used 8 wt and brought it with me fishing for practically a year. Every time I swore that after I'd catch a few fish then I would take the fly rod out to finally catch a red on it. Never happened. So at the urging of a fellow BCKFC member, he talked me into going out with only the fly rod. Said it was common for folks to do what I was doing. Well I did, halfway through the drive I convinced myself that I was making a mistake; that I should have brought a conventional rod "just in case". I was wrong, I somehow managed to catch 3 reds on the fly that day. I was HOOKED at that point. the rest of the summer I'd alternate between taking conventional tackle or fly only tackle. The more I went fly only, the more I realized that I enjoyed catching reds on fly equipment more than on conventional tackle. The past 3 years I think I've fished with conventional tackle from the yak maybe 4 times. The rest has been fly only.
I hope that this events gets some of you guys that have that fly rod sitting in the back of the closet to come on down and chase some fish on fly only tackle. As I can attest, fly fishing can be very addicting.
+1 on getting hooked. I caught a limit of trout on my first fly fishing trip from a kayak.

[brian22]

+1 on getting hooked. I caught a limit of trout on my first fly fishing trip from a kayak.


Were you a fly fisherman before kayak fishing? I BRIEFLY attempted to fly fish for the first time ever this past weekend; standing on the fantail of the PA while my 8 year old son sailed, steered, and pedaled all the the same time for the first time as well..... As the PA veered left and right like Lindsay Lohan on a Saturday night, I feverishly backcasted and whipped forward, cracking the whip and snapping off my freshly-tied on chart/white clouser. Didn't want him to get lonely out there so I quickly tied on another..... seasick on the kayak? Ok, don't turn that way and cast, flies wrap around masts REALLY easily. "Son, you're doing great, but you don't need to pump the pedals like that, it feels like we're going over speedbumps and it's scaring the fish - could you come left a little? The mud makes it hard to pedal. Oh, don't worry, I rip the fins all the time on stuff too, it's ok." That cast went out ok, but I still think I could kick the fly further than that." I've never felt less stable on a 34" wide kayak in my life. It was a blast.

[MDR]

Were you a fly fisherman before kayak fishing? I BRIEFLY attempted to fly fish for the first time ever this past weekend; standing on the fantail of the PA while my 8 year old son sailed, steered, and pedaled all the the same time for the first time as well..... As the PA veered left and right like Lindsay Lohan on a Saturday night, I feverishly backcasted and whipped forward, cracking the whip and snapping off my freshly-tied on chart/white clouser. Didn't want him to get lonely out there so I quickly tied on another..... seasick on the kayak? Ok, don't turn that way and cast, flies wrap around masts REALLY easily. "Son, you're doing great, but you don't need to pump the pedals like that, it feels like we're going over speedbumps and it's scaring the fish - could you come left a little? The mud makes it hard to pedal. Oh, don't worry, I rip the fins all the time on stuff too, it's ok." That cast went out ok, but I still think I could kick the fly further than that." I've never felt less stable on a 34" wide kayak in my life. It was a blast.

Very entertaining. TY.

[snake doctor]

-to brian22,

I recommend dropping the sail, perhaps pulling the mirage drive, and letting your little bubba have a marsh pole. Let him ease you along in redfish country and try to find one that you can sight cast. Even though I have a "hands-free" Hobie, I usually will stop and put out a stake pole to help stabilize my fly casting and to stop drifting. Occasionally I will pedal slowly and cast a fly -but only if there is little to no wind, or if I can find a wind-protected shoreline.

It is a GREAT IDEA to be staked or anchored if you ever stand up to cast.

If your yak is drifting along and it unexpectedly bumps a submerged crab trap, log, etc., and suddenly stops moving while you are standing and deeply focused on casting then you might find the unexpected dip in the water quite refreshing. I recommend having no video cameras rolling and no buddies with cameras around should such an event ever occur -- hypothetically speaking, of course.

[brian22]

-to brian22,

I recommend dropping the sail, perhaps pulling the mirage drive, and letting your little bubba have a marsh pole. Let him ease you along in redfish country and try to find one that you can sight cast. Even though I have a "hands-free" Hobie, I usually will stop and put out a stake pole to help stabilize my fly casting and to stop drifting. Occasionally I will pedal slowly and cast a fly -but only if there is little to no wind, or if I can find a wind-protected shoreline.

It is a GREAT IDEA to be staked or anchored if you ever stand up to cast.

If your yak is drifting along and it unexpectedly bumps a submerged crab trap, log, etc., and suddenly stops moving while you are standing and deeply focused on casting then you might find the unexpected dip in the water quite refreshing. I recommend having no video cameras rolling and no buddies with cameras around should such an event ever occur -- hypothetically speaking, of course.


I can't say how many wet dunks you may be saving me from by saying that. I bet son would dig poling me through the marsh, but sailing is tops. Dad might just have to get wet on that one! Will have to make sure we're out of telephoto lens range at all times.... pics/video taken of the sail up will be fleeting like the sasquatch videos!