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snake doctor
11-16-2010, 08:32 PM
I moved this to a new thread since it does not exactly fit with the Christmas wish list - except maybe for those wishing not to fall out of the yak in 2011. :)

I looked on the Hobie kayak forum and found it was possible to squeeze the mount of the amas in between the front and rear seats on the Outfitter. You have to be careful that it is mounted just far enough to clear the rear pedals and not too far forward such that the front passenger does not have a bar in his back. I like it positioned here so I can see anything that might hit the amas and can keep them clear of fishing lines, fish, etc.

Redhead (Blake) at Massey's helped with ordering and had tips for mounting the amas. It was almost impossible to use anything but well nuts to do the mount in the middle of the yak. Blake suggested adding 3M 5200 marine sealant for more strength -- I did, and think it worked well.

The amas can fit in three positions. Each one inserts into the mounted tube much like the two halves of a yak paddle go together. The pontoons have two part valves - one releases the air, the other is a one way valve for inflation. About three breaths of air inflates each pontoon. The amas can be inflated and added or disassembled and deflated in about 60 seconds.

The stability of the yak was pretty good before the addition, but now it is super stable.

My next step is building a little casting platform (mini tuna tower) for poling and sight fishing redfish. I want to learn to bend pvc and add a nice flat section of plywood for standing. I think the forward rod holders and the "sail hole" in the center of the yak can be utilized to receive the pvc tubes of the platform and perhaps an elevated seat. I will probably consult the rigging guru (PJ) before moving to the platform phase of the project.

valvguy1
11-17-2010, 07:16 AM
Thanks for posting those closeups. I'm considering getting some for the new outback....... can they be retracted while on the water?

Branch_Office
11-17-2010, 07:45 AM
That is pretty good idea...nice layout!

valvguy1
11-17-2010, 08:19 AM
OK Kurt........... there's a project for ya. I can already hear your power tools firing up.

P.S. I'll be disappointed if you don't deck it in Carbon Fiber Sheet for added strength and reduced weight, LOL.

snake doctor
11-17-2010, 11:47 AM
Thanks for posting those closeups. I'm considering getting some for the new outback....... can they be retracted while on the water?

They can be positioned high, medium, or low (I like low-most stable with both pontoons touching the water) while on the water with just a push of a button and a twist of the wrist. You can also just pull them out, deflate them, and stow them while on the water. They can be easily installed on the water as well if it is not too rough.

Thanks for the post of the Outfitter deck, WACT. I was thinking of something like that, with addition of pvc that comes up from the front rod holders with a cross bar. This pvc can then be rigged with rod and push pole holders. I am determining if I can put a bike seat on a 3 ft. rod and place that in the fitting for the sail in the middle of the yak. I'm not sure if the mast hole can take weight. If not, the mast hole could be used just to fix the seat rod, and a welded plate could distribute the weight and retain it from pushing down to the bottom of the hole.

valvguy1
11-17-2010, 03:27 PM
the mast won't hold the wait at all, i wouldn't go that route.


Think he's calling you fat Snake Dr.

Glwlsu
11-17-2010, 03:33 PM
I can see a tough ruling coming up for upcoming Outcast events..... looks like we are gonna push the limits here...

Nobody
11-17-2010, 03:36 PM
I can see a tough ruling coming up for upcoming Outcast events..... looks like we are gonna push the limits here...

What ruling? If you fish the Outcast events you can attach the outrigger to yourself and fish. I believe the premise of the Outcast is, "If it floats then it is legal."

Razoryak
11-17-2010, 03:39 PM
I can see a tough ruling coming up for upcoming Outcast events..... looks like we are gonna push the limits here...

Wont be long until we'll have someone fishing out of this

Nobody
11-17-2010, 03:43 PM
Wont be long until we'll have someone fishing out of this

My secret is out!

valvguy1
11-17-2010, 04:07 PM
Followed one home from PAC like this a few weeks ago.

snake doctor
11-17-2010, 07:19 PM
Think he's calling you fat Snake Dr.

:lol:

At a buck ninety I am toward the smaller end of the BCKFC guys. We got some big 'uns in this club.

WACT is probably right on this one. Sitting on a pole where the mast fits will probably put a new hole in the yak. But I think a raised seat can be engineered into the yak.

yak-aholic
11-17-2010, 10:58 PM
What ruling? If you fish the Outcast events you can attach the outrigger to yourself and fish. I believe the premise of the Outcast is, "If it floats then it is legal."

Might even be worth re-visiting the MacGyver challenge.

For those who don't know... http://www.bckfc.org/forum/viewthread.php?tid=3657#pid35779